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November 6, 2009
Palestinian president bows out, future of peace in question

Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, has decided not to seek re-election, raising questions about the future of peace in the Middle East. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton say she is looking forward to working with Abbas in any new capacity in the future.

Yuli Edelstein, the Minister of Public Affairs and the Diaspora in the Israeli cabinet, joins Daljit Dhaliwal to discuss the prospects of peace in the Middle East and why Israel won’t agree to a settlement freeze.

Al Jazeera English’s John Terrett reports on the challenges and reasons behind Abbas’ decision to bow out of politics — including the expansion of Israeli settlements and the impartial U.S. stance.

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#33

Following a recent World Focus segment on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, Dhajit asked us to post the answer to the question;”Can the United States be an even-handed mediator in trying to resolve the the conflict?”. I can’t think why anybody would think that the United States could be even-handed. With the largest and most vociferous Jewish population anywhere, including Israel, US politicians would not be re-elected if that population turned against them. The question is ridiculous and the idea of American politicians being able to broker a peace agreement with no bias is farcical. The only US politician to tell it as it is thus far, is Jimmy Carter — but then, he is not running for re-election.

#32

Another time the my posting has been blocked. WF you have it, is this a free platform for veryone or just for speciall people

#31

The original name of Jerusalem in Arabic is Ayen Salem or the Eye of Salem, that is the original Arabic name for the city. The Arabs also called it O’r Salem a combination of a Canaanite and Arabic names, many many years before Judiasim came to exist. According to your history, Judaism is 5769,the Arabs and the indigenousness people of Palestine were there way before God Asked both Abraham and Moses to pass through that land. For example Jericho is more than 10,000 years old, where as Hebron is almost 8,000 and Jerusalem 7, 000. As a result regardless of what you have been told, that land has been Arab, Palestinian way before you existed

#30

2 Thess. 2:4
Dan. 9:27
Matt. 24:15

Just do a google search for “herem utter annihilation” and you’ll find plenty of sources.

#29

Jacob, son of Itzhak and grandson of Abraham. Where did you get your information?, Cherem is ex-communication. And what scriptures are you talking about? Do you partially excerpt to fit your agenda? Is dangerous to indulge into Paul’s prejudices.

Cherem
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Cherem (or Herem חרם), is the highest ecclesiastical censure in the Jewish community. It is the total exclusion of a person from the Jewish community. It is a form of shunning, and is similar to excommunication in the Catholic Church. Cognate terms in other Semitic languages include the Arabic term ḥarām (forbidden, taboo, off-limits, sacred or immoral), and the Ethiopic `irm (meaning accursed).
The most famous (for Gentiles) case of a cherem is that of Spinoza, a seventeenth century philosopher.

#28

To #18 maybe you used the wrong words. If it was a personal attack they will not post it. Send the site an e-mail and see if they will explain it to you.
Post your message at FEEDBACK.

#27

To Son of al-Quds. A further look at the word in the (excuse me) Wikipedia it seems to me that Jerusalem is the english transliteration of Yerushalaim. The Arab name is al-Quds (holly), and earlier Egyptian version is Urusalimum. This is fun for the right information. Still you are robbing the Hebrew name.

Further information: Names of Jerusalem
The Semitic root of the name “Jerusalem” is sometimes thought to be “s-l-m” meaning peace,[17] harmony or completeness. A city called Rušalimum or Urušalimum appears in ancient Egyptian records as one of the first references to Jerusalem.[18] These Egyptian forms are thought to derive from the local name attested in the Amarna letters, e.g: in EA 287 (where it takes several forms) Urusalim.[19][20] The form Yerushalayim (Jerusalem) first appears in the book of Joshua. This form has the appearance of a portmanteau of yerusha (heritage) and the original name Shalem and is not a simple phonetic evolution of the form in the Amarna letters. Some believe there is a connection to Shalim, the beneficent deity known from Ugaritic myths as the personification of dusk.[21] Typically the ending -im indicates the plural in Hebrew grammar and -ayim the dual thus leading to the suggestion that the name refers to the fact that the city sits on two hills.[22][23] However the pronunciation of the last syllable as -ayim appears to be a late development, which had not yet appeared at the time of the Septuagint. In Greek and Latin it is transliterated Hierosolyma. To the Arabs, Jerusalem is al-Quds (“The Holy”). “Zion” initially referred to part of the city, but later came to signify the city as a whole. Under King David, it was known as Ir David (the City of David).[24]

#26

Son of al-Quds. The free encyclopedia is the Wikipedia.

#25

Son of al-Quds. Here is an excerpt of the free encyclopedia that you unfortunately revile al-Quds is Arabic for the Hebrew (Jewish) Jerusalem or Yeruhsalaim.:

Jerusalem (Hebrew: יְרוּשָׁלַיִם‎ (audio) (help·info), Yerushaláyim; Arabic: القُدس (audio) (help·info), al-Quds)[ii] is the capital[iii] of Israel and its largest city[2] in both population and area,[3] with a population of 763,800 residents over an area of 125.1 km2 (48.3 sq mi) if disputed East Jerusalem is included.[1][4][iv] Located in the Judean Mountains, between the Mediterranean Sea and the northern tip of the Dead Sea, modern Jerusalem has grown far beyond the boundaries of the Old City.

#24

# 16.today harrets reported that Arabs are not welcome to apply for jobs!! that proves you wrong again. THe ISraeli society is not respecful and not accepting other the way you claim

#23

Oh my, no new schools and apartments.

When your country exceeds it’s limit you have to cut back your population growth. Israel’s unlawful occupation of other nations automatically receives the stamp of transgression.

A Jew can long for his Zion, but a Muslim longing for their version of the Caliphate, how dare he. How dare any Muslim do onto the west what we have done onto them ten fold.

Muslims, South Americans, SE Asians, and all people’s rightfully dispossessed by western foreign policy need to peacefully collaborate and construct an argument to be made against our policy.

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the only thing worse than genocide:
“herem” – Hebrew for “utter annihilation” of “all that breathes”

Israel needs to listen to Jesus and act like the “city on the hill.”

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It’s so funny too. Christian Zionists. If the third temple is ever built, scripture says the antichrist will be anointed in the temple and then they’ll immediately side against Israel with the fear that their current high priest is the antichrist.

#22

Edelstein spewed the usual Israel propaganda for the continuation of violating UN covenants.

#21

It is too late for peace. Now we must reboot religion and try again.

Cardinal human values do not allow for such injustices of one group upon another. We all must reboot now, because we have all have been witnesses and not acted on our shared values of justice and goodness.

#20

# 15 the website is no longer posting answeres, do not know why. I have answered you

#19

# 15, that is why Ahmad Tibi is always complaning about Israeli racism and many more Palestinians can not go to pray at Al Aksa mosque. That is why most Arabs had no shelters during the Lebanese war and all Jews had many, that why Azmi Bishara a Christian was expelled from the country and many more christians are runing a way from thier homes. It is in your interests to present the Arabs as a force united against Israel. The truth is the Arab countries and Israel are united against Palestinian aspirations and that is why Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Egypt, and Israel all committed massacres against the Palestinians in the last 60 years. Your claim of money is basless and I would love to see the bank account of Ovadia Yousef and would love to see the budget of Shas and the settlers posted on a website the way the Palestinians are posting everything on their websites. What about all those Jews who have been killing Palestinians including those who have been named in the Golstone report.The coming years are very interesting!!!!!

#18

Mr.;Ms., JGE, The Jewish name is Orshalim or Orshalaim the English name is Jerusalem, so please get your facts corrected. Since I am writing on an english site and as a matter or respect to those who are reading, I am using this name. So if you have any morality left, do not lie

#17

Son of Al-Quds. I went and checked my numbers. Israeli Arabs number 1,652.000 (One million six hundred and fifty two thousand), they represent 23.6% of Israel’s population of 7 million. And unless you come with solid facts, they are proud to be Israelis, they say Israel is our country and we will never live in a Palestinian oppressive country. And they don’t have to do military service. Shazam! Remember Al-Quds is the arab name for Jerusalem, which is the Jewish name. No more robbers, please.

#16

Son of Al-Quds. Your misrepresentation of the facts is tantalizing. Egypt, Jordan and Syria fought for you in 1948 and 1967 major wars, Egypt and Syria did it in 1973. And during in between all these years these countries
kept terrorizing the Israelis from Gaza and from Jordanian occupied West Bank. Palestinian major leader Arafat continued his terror tactis when in Jordan where he tried and failed to overthrow King Hussein. Then was expelled to Lebanon where he terrorized Israel in the north, and terrorized the Shia and the Lebanese Christians. So much so that Sharon was received as a hero when he expelled Arafat. Then Arafat and his clan went to live in Tunisia and excelled in global terrorism against Israelis and Jews. In the Berlin Olympics killing of Israeli olympians, and the killing of the invalid Klienhoffer that was thrown overboard the ship in his wheel chair.
Arafat comes to Gaza and West Bank and conducts the wave of suicide bombers killing and maiming thousands of Israeli civilians, plus stilling 6 billion dollars and putting into Swiss banks. Finally Sharon plus Arafat AIDS sickness gets read of this leader of Palestinian nationalism.
These truths just escape your false bloggings.
Then Hizbullah , from Lebanon, and Hamas from Gaza fire thousands of missiles at the Israeli civilian population, which you fail to admit. But in all cases when Israel acts in self defense either in Lebanon and Gaza, or erects a defense wall to separate incursions of Palestinian terrorists from the West Bank, and daily captures would be terrorists, you are telling people that this is not fair. And you ask the rhetorical question that the Israeli army defends against whom?

The man that killed Rabin is in jail for life because Israel is a country of law and order, and counts as an isolated incident, do not generalize

Israeli Arabs, Moslem and Christian, number half a million, and are happy to live in Israel as free and respected, prosperous, educated and will never live in an oppressive Palestinian society.
If Palestinians are poor, which is the case of Gaza, how come they have thousands of weapons instead of food? That is something even you can not hide nor accept.
The West Bank is better off , and is even getting better under Salam Fayyad the Prime Minister of the Palestinian Authority. Remember Arafat and his clan, robed 6 billion dollars put them in Swiss banks, not a cent for poor Palestinians. And he brought destruction to the West Bank and his opponents. Hamas is doing the same to Gaza, keeps the people poor, and bring destruction.

The Israeli tribes agree to disagree, they are united to defend Israel from your aggression: Hizbullah, Hamas, Palestinian terrorists.

These are the facts and only the facts.

#15

#10Mr.; Ms. JGE, it is very interesting that you claim that Israel has a free media and allows for many freedoms in its own society. Many Muslims and Christians inside Israel are complaining otherwise, they have been moving outside of the country and it does not take rocket scientists to figure otherwise. Evidence from the country suggest otherwise on many levels. The refusal by Jewish school to accept Flasha students in their schools is a clear case of racism of Jews against Jews. The Case of Al Zubi daughter an Arab kindergarten student who was expelled from school (Bit Shan Region) because of her ethnicity is another example that disputes the picture you are painting about Israel as an accepting and respectful society of others. You keep referring to Nusseibeh’s interview as holly and written in stone, as if he speaks for all Palestinians. Nusseibeh’s views are equal Pape’s views in your community. How many people take Pape’s view as serious or as representative of the views of the community, or for that matter Gidon Levy of Harretz. So stop making Nusseibeh more than he is and you also should read his book Once Upon A country to have a full picture of the man and his views on the occupation

#14

# 11 Mr.; Ms. JGE, You say “the tribes are united and solve their difference in dialogue” another misrepresentation of the truth. The killing of Rabin is a proof of that. The tribes have killed in the worst form possible. In addition, the constant clashes between the Israeli Occupation Forces (IOF) and the settlers are another proof of your misunderstanding of the Israeli scene. Thus, claiming that your society is a better one needs to be examined with more honesty. There hundreds of events where settlers kill Palestinians and vandalize their property unpunished and unscathed under the banner of your democracy. As for Israel defending itself, I wonder from who, Jordan has been against the Palestinians not Israel since 1932, Egypt has been imposing the toughest of all sanctions against Gaza and never cared about the Palestinians after 1979, Syria, did not fire a bullet at Israel since 1973 and has been attacked by Israel so many times and so scared to respond, Lebanon is the biggest joke on earth. The entire Lebanese army could not defeat 300 fighters in one refugee camp. Iraq is where Israel would like it to be divided and a failed state. So Israel is defending itself against who? Against the Palestinians who are living under poverty line and who possess nothing to feed their own people let alone threatening someone else. Whereas many like are brain washed with this, do think that others will be easily fooled. Israel has more than 250 nuclear heads and is capable of wiping the Middle East 50 times over

#13

# 9 Mr.; Ms.JGE, Ovadia Yousef is a racist man and advocated the killing of Arabs, Muslim, and Palestinians many times over and over again. He called Palestinians snakes cockroaches, and much worse names and have been advising the Israel Occupation Forces (IOF) not the (IDF) not to abide by any orders to evacuate occupied lands. So on this account you have misrepresented the truth and you have not been honest to yourself and to other bloggers

#12

Son of Al-Quds. The Israeli tribes are diverse and united into defending their country, they solve their differences by dialogue and compromises, they accept to live in peace and respect for the law, and work together for progress, technology and industry. They have a strong army to defend themselves from aggression and terrorism from their enemies. Is true that Jewish love for Israel is based on the teachings of the Bible, but in 2,000 years of exile and continuous transformations the love of the Land of Israel endures by every Jew, religious, secular, agnostic. The teachings are justice, respect for the individual, study and hard work, and above all discussion and agreements. The bottom line is that Israel and the Jews will defend itself with all their force and all their energy.

#11

Son of Al-Quds. Ovadia Yoseff does not advocate killing Moslems or Palestinians. Ayatollah Khamenei is deeply involved into killing Israelis, Sunnis, Kurds, Afghan Talibanis, and their own Iranian people that disagree with his dictatorship.

Jerusalem Post, Haaretz, and Israeli papers and Jewish papers publish all kind of news and opinions pro and against Israel. And they tell the truth compared to Moslem, Arab media. Free press and truthful reporting is repressed by the myriad of totalitarian rulers of these Moslem countries. That is why Israeli Arabs, Moslem or Christian, prefer to live in Israel free and respected, than under Palestinian oppressive rule. Read and re-read the Opinions of Sari Nusseibeh Director and Professor of Al-Quds (Jerusalem) University, and previously minister for Arafa. Pay attention to .Salam Fayyad Palestinian Minister that is changing the environment in the West Bank with great improvements on security and economic progress, and institutions that will respect the individual, men and women.

#10

Son of Al-Quds. Ovadia Yoseff does not advocate killing Moslems or Palestinians. Ayatollah Khamenei is deeply involved into killing Israelis, Sunnis, Kurds, Afghan Talibanis, and their own Iranian people that disagree with his dictatorship.

#9

Son of Al-Quds. Ovadia Yoseff does not advocate killing Moslems or Palestinians. Ayatollah Khamenei is deeply involved into killing Israelis, Sunnis, Kurds, Afghan Talibanis, and their own Iranian people that disagree with his dictatorship. That is the difference, and if you can not see is because your eyeglasses are in deep fog. Jerusalem Post, Haaretz, and Israeli papers and Jewish papers publish all kind of news and opinions
pro and against Israel. And they tell the truth compared to Moslem, Arab media. Free press and truthful reporting is repressed by the myriad of totalitarian rulers of these Moslem countries. That is why Israeli Arabs, Moslem or Christian, prefer to live in Israel free and respected, than under Palestinian oppressive rule. Read and re-read the Opinions of Sari Nusseibeh Director and Professor of Al-Quds (Jerusalem) University, and previously minister for Arafa. Pay attention to .Salam Fayyad Palestinian Minister that is changing the environment in the West Bank with great improvements on security and economic progress, and institutions that will respect the individual, men and women.

#8

You know J garbuz, it is very interesting to debate people like you who depend on their fluency in English, but very thin on historical and legal knowledge. It is even more interesting to see you and others citing Wikipedia or cut and past from the Jerusalem post all the time as an academic source and venue to proof your points. At any rate, many academic sources Western, Israeli, and Arab dispute your take on Palestinian nationalism. See what Joel Migdal and Baruch Kimmerling two Jewish and Israeli historians say about Palestinian nationalism) just a small example. I am fascinated how you and may cite 3000 years a go as a valid argument, but ignore that neither international nor domestic laws recognize the validity of the argument. Indeed yours is a n argument from God, which places you, the Iranian Mullahs, Taliban, and the Wahhabies together. But, whereas Israel can cite God anytime it wishes none else can otherwise he is a fundamentalist. Another discrepancy of the 21 century that none dares talking about otherwise she/he loses his job under many banners the least is lacking accuracy

You say that the Palestinians are a tribal society. Look at the Israeli society, Shas is the Moroccan and Iraqi tribe, Israel Bitanu is the Russian tribe, Likud and Kadima are the Easter European tribe, Labor is the Military tribe, and the rest are different tribes each advocating a different point of view. Each came from a different country, speaks a different language, eats different food, and has a different aspiration. But all of them are united in one cause killing Palestinians, stealing their homes and their culture, and denying their existence, such as Jabotinski, Shamir, Begin and Golda Meir. I leave you with this question, what is the difference between Ovadia Yousef and Ali Khammani of Iran?

#7

I feel sorry for Abbas for his decision to gave up his position. I do not know if he consider himself successful but one thing remain obvious,his inability to reconcile Palestinian factions and the acceptance of the tailored democracy that only make him a tool is unfortunate.
There is need for the Palestinian people to speak with one voice in order to achive lasting peace.
Whoever emerge in future as president should first think of how to put the divided house in order and to recorgnise Israel as a state existing along side with State Palestine .

#6

As long as Israel declares that it alone has rights and intends to impose its will on weaker Palestinians, stripping them permanently of their land, resources, and rights, there will never be lasting peace. No justice – no peace!

#5

I thought the “host” was very rude to Mr Edelstein. Interupting him when she didn’t like the answers he was giving to her questions…it’s odvious where she stands. #3 is right by the way.

#4

You are right Son of Al-Quds. Israelis are free to discuss the true information, while Palestinians will be punished if they tell the truth. Just like the fascists and communists used to do.

#3

Because the “Palestinians” are not a nation. They’re a wannabe nation that cannot and will never get its act together, because they are a collection of various clans and tribes, many of whom are very different and at odds. There’s only one thing that unites them and that is the desire for revenge and hatred of the Jews. You can’t build a nation on that alone.

#2

Very strange WF, why would you bring an Israeli to expalin a Palestinian political issue. Are you suggesting that Israelis know more a bout the Palestinians than the Palestinians themseleves!!!!!!

#1

Thanks for bringing on Mr. Edelstein. As for Abbas,that Holocaust-denying “moderate” qutting, I say good riddance to bad rubbish. The only difference between Fatah and Hamas, is that the former wants to destroy ISrael in a peaceful way (mainly by getting the US and others to do it for them), while the latter doesn’t disguise its evil end goal.
Thanks again for Edelstein, and hope you’ll bring him back as least as often as you bring back the likes of Gideon Levy, et al.

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