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June 30, 2009
Palestinians eye high-level talks on Israeli settlements

On Tuesday, Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak and George Mitchell, the Obama administration’s special envoy to the Middle East, met in New York.

The meeting was held one day after it was reported that Israel may be open to a freeze on settlement building.

Ghassan Shabaneh, an assistant professor of international studies at Marymount Manhattan College, joins Martin Savidge to discuss Palestinians’ concerns about settlements and other issues.

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#38

How can Arab youth read or authors translate books while they are very busy to earn enough money only to cover their basic needs? We don’t have enough libraries and the books are very expensive, moreover most of our people are upset of what is happening in Palestine, Iraq, Sudan, Yemen, Lebanon and all the other poor countries. The future is hiding many surprises dear. Be aware that the coming generation will be better.
We teach our children how to achieve their right of living in security societies without threaten and to keep in their mind the right of return back to their homeland

#37

Ahmad Mullah: Read this article

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/05/opinion/05friedman.htm

#36

JGE: Israel stands behind each infighting inside our countries. The thing that no one can deny that the corruption is between some of the Arab leaders but be sure the public are clean.

Who are stronger than Palestinians? In spite of killing, destroying and apprehensions, ..etc, but they still resist the occupation.
I advice you to be fair and think of what is waiting every one after death.

#35

I was impressed by Professor Shabaneh’s interview. Moreover, I was impressed by World Focus’ guest choice that offered some solution that none of the other network-panels did.
I am also disturbed by the views of a couple of bloggers below. I am having hard time deciding wither they are making these comments for the sake of provoking a reaction or they really believe what they are saying. Professor Shabaneh’s views on the settlements are creative and fresh in the face of the usual spin and predictable “recommendations.”
Keep it up World Focus!

#34

Just Got Educated: JGE, read so you learn the reality of your people. Stop spreading lies about the Arabs and start cleaning your own house.

Why did Ben Gurion call Begin a ‘Hitlerist type’?

By Tom Segev

Tags: Israel news, David Ben Gurion

Budding friendship

Israel’s first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion, knew how to hate; from time to time he would transfer his hatred from one person to another. On May 15, 1963, he wrote to poet Haim Gouri: “[Menachem] Begin is clearly a Hitlerist type: a racist, willing to destroy all the Arabs for the sake of Greater Israel; he justifies any means for the sacred end – absolute rule …”

A few years later, Ben-Gurion “transferred” his hatred to Levi Eshkol, and wanted to reconcile with Begin. “My [wife] Paula has always been an admirer of yours, for some reason,” he wrote to Begin in February 1969: “I was strongly opposed to several of your viewpoints and actions … and I don’t regret that, because in my opinion I was right (anyone is capable of making a mistake without realizing it), but on a personal level, I have never had anything against you and the more I have gotten to know you in recent years – the more I have appreciated you, and my Paula is pleased about that.”

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In 1981, then-prime minister Begin sent Gouri a copy of Ben-Gurion’s letter, and this week Gouri spoke about this document at the annual conference of the Zalman Shazar Center for Jewish History, in Jerusalem.

Begin wrote to Gouri: “I have copied the late Mr. Ben-Gurion’s letter for you not in order to ‘brag.’ But from the moment I received this letter I have always asked myself: Maybe we would really have been spared many tragic and even terrible things had the late Ben-Gurion and I been ‘better’ acquainted with one another.”

Begin pointed out that Ben-Gurion’s letter to him was written a few years after the letter to Gouri. “So which letter is valid? The earlier one or the later one? In law, it is common practice that if a person willed his property on a certain date and later changed both his mind and his will, the later document is binding, not the earlier one.”

The prime minister did not ask Gouri to make his letter public. “I am writing to you out of a human urge, nothing more,” he said then.

Out of oblivion

On June 1, 1925, a new daily newspaper appeared in Tel Aviv, called Davar. The paper came out continuously until 1996, and was generally considered an important publication. Past issues of it are therefore also important to the study of history, but can only be found in a few libraries today.

Recently, however, Davar joined a number of Jewish newspapers that can be perused online, on a Web site initiated by Tel Aviv University and the Jewish National and University Library in Jerusalem. The project – which so far covers the period 1948-1969 – also includes Jewish newspapers published in Arab countries and the English-language Palestine Post.

Davar is the first Hebrew newspaper included on the site. Historian Yaron Tzur, the project coordinator, says the next addition will be the daily Maariv.

Not only is the Web site (jpress.tau.ac.il) user-friendly, it also has rescued these newspapers from oblivion.Journalism is often considered “the first draft of history,” although its main value does not necessarily lie in the information it provides, but in the public discourse it reflects.

Interesting in this connection, for example, are the first articles published in Davar by journalist Nahum Barnea, beginning in 1967, including one entitled “Israel Boom Boom.” In it, he described a visit to Greece, where he encountered great affection for Israel, in the wake of the Six-Day War.

‘Narrow-minded people’

A short while ago, artist David Tartakover was invited to submit an entry for a poster exhibit organized by the Hellenic Migration Policy Institute (IMEPO) in Athens, which is under the aegis of the Greek interior minister.

Tartakover, an Israel Prize laureate, blew up the first page of his grandfather’s passport and printed the following words on it, in English: “On October 21, 1938, my grandparents left Vienna, Austria, for Palestine.” Austria had been annexed to Nazi Germany a few months earlier. The passports of David and Rebecca Tartakover bore the swastika and the letter “J,” in red, identifying them as Jews.

IMEPO was very impressed with the poster, but refused to display it. The institute’s president, Alexander Zavos, expressed his regret and wrote to Tartakover in the following letter: “I am afraid we live in a country that is in a socially critical situation right now and there are tensions everywhere. There are street riots, there is instability and we’re afraid of reactions. Any reference to Palestine, for example, or the Holocaust, we are very much afraid would spark reactions that would harm the exhibition and the organization itself. You know, there are narrow-minded people that are seeking excuses for trouble.

For example, we have many immigrants from Palestine, and they could misinterpret your message and bring us in a difficult position. Being a governmental organization, we are supervised by the minister of interior, thus we have to be very careful when it comes to decisions like this.”

Tartakover submitted an alternative poster. He distributed his original entry as a postcard to exhibition visitors, with Zavos’ letter printed on its reverse side.

#33

Just Got Educated: Look who will kill who incase we have peace. Your fiction about the Arab world is always countred by reality from your country. People should see who kills and who is capable of killing all the time
Death threats sent to Jerusalem mayor following parking lot riots

By Nir Hasson and Jonathan Lis, Haaretz Correspondents, and News Agencies

Tags: Haredim, Nir Barkat

Two e-mail death threats were sent to Jerusalem Mayor Nir Barkat on Sunday, a day after police clashed with ultra-Orthodox demonstrators protesting the opening of a parking lot in the capital on Shabbat. Security at Barkat’s office has been increased following the threats, and police have opened an investigation.

Barkat’s bureau issued a statement Sunday vowing that Barkat will not change his decision to open the parking lot.

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On Saturday, twenty eight ultra-Orthodox demonstrators were arrested and six people were wounded during riots in Jerusalem against the Sabbath opening of the parking lot. A 20-year-old Haredi man sustained serious head wounds during the turmoil; Magen David Adom emergency services said the man, suffering from convulsions, was taken to Hadassah Ein Karem for medical treatment. Police said they had no further details about the circumstances in which the man was wounded. Four police officers were also lightly hurt during the protests, as was a six-year-old boy, according to the Associated Press.

Near the site of the demonstration, thousands of secular Israelis held a counter-protest in support of Barkat’s decision to open the Carta parking lot. Despite the ultra-Orthodox protesters’ attempts to block the parking lot entrance in the afternoon, hundreds of cars were able to park there successfully on Saturday.

The Mayor’s bureau said later Saturday that the lot solved the problems of parking and public safety in Jerusalem’s Old City. “The mayor is obligated to maintain the public’s safety and this concern is what guides him,” said a Barkat spokesperson. “The police must now be concerned with public order.” In the wake of the protests, Barkat’s security detail has been reinforced and a security guard has been placed outside of his home.

On Friday, ultra-Orthodox Jerusalemites staged a mass rally to protest the parking lot’s opening. Droves of Haredim flooded Bar Ilan Street, a major throughway in the heart of an ultra-Orthodox district, as well as other sites in the city.

Violent riots also erupted three weeks ago, after the municipality passed a resolution to open the Safra parking lot in the city center on the Sabbath. Hoping to appease the protesters, Barkat decided to open the nearby Carta lot instead, but the controversy has not subsided. Numerous Haredi leaders from various factions, including Shas spiritual leader Ovadia Yosef and Rabbi Shalom Elyashiv, a leader of the Lithuanian Haredi community, joined the call to hold the mass prayer session after the protest was initially led by Eda Haredit, an extremist ultra-Orthodox group. Protesters attacked journalists who were covering the events, including Channel 2 reporter Dafna Liel who had to cut short a live report

#32

This is an excellent writing for all of you to read:

“”07/03/2009 :: 06:10:41 PM
New Prophecy? Says:

I was recently in the Middle-East. I find it appauling, that the only thing the Muslim population can agree upon is hatred of Israel. It is only a reason and method to direct violence towards a group of people, if tomorrow, hatred toward Israel would dissipate, I have no doubt in my mind that the Muslims in the area will fight and kill each other. (oh wait thats happening now on a moderate scale to). Although there are many who are moderate and seek peace, they are continually subjugated by the the extremist mullah’s and leaders of the community to hate, and if they dont hate and wish for the death of others, then they will face death themselves. I ask you, how is it possible to make peace with a group of people who really dont want peace, because a peace with Israel will only mean a beginning of war and destruction among the Arabs themselves. How could you not understand, that it is in the best interest of all the surrounding Muslim countries to provocate hatred towards the Jews and Israel, because its the only way they are able to maintain any sense of stability in there own countries… case in point:

Saudi Arabia- Conflict in Israel means 2 things, first any instability is a direct correlator towards oil prices, and second, the week Saudi government can only remain in power, if the economy is somewhat stable, they cant even protect themselves from themselves, let alone any other neighbors.

Iran- once again case in point, hatred of Israel is the cornerstone of Ahmadinijad’s poise for power. the populace is fed up with him and his lies, but they continually use the instability in the region to develop weaponry, cause instability, and distract there people from their internal strife.

And the list for Syria and Lebanon is very similar. If the surrounding Arab population is so worried about the Palestinians then why not have a three state solution, where the Gaza strip will be given back to Egypt and the West bank will go back to Jordan (the two neighboring countries who have formal peace with Israel.) Well its because neither want the land! the last time Palestinians went to Jordan, they tried to overthrow the leader and create chaos and havoc. None of the Arab neighbors, have any respect or care for the Palestinians (otherwise they would’ve accepted them a long time ago in there countries) they just use the Palestinians as pawns in a large regional game of chess.
For there sake, if the Palestinians want peace, they should stop teaching there kids hatred, and educate them in tolerance and accepting of others. They should not think of ways to kill the Israelis but ways to build there own futures. Not use there tunnels to transport rockets, but use those tunnels to transport there message of love. the religion of islam, teaches of tolerance and acceptance, but your Mullah’s have corrupted it into being a religion of hate. To the true muslims, i urge you to reclaim your religion and begin building a foundation of peace and love, not hate and intolerance. “

#31

Saudi Arabia has been exporting Wahadism (Ben Laden, Al Qeida), now they are infecting Gaza, and participating in the killings of Hamas, Fatah/Al Aqsa murderers, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad.

And Iran exports thousands of weapons and rockets to Gaza, not food, not medical supplies.

Next read about Yasir Arafat and his gang (Abbas et al), spread murder stole all of the money and put it in Swiss banks. Ariel Sharon took care of him. Arafat did not want to come out from his palace in Ramallah, surrounded by handsome bodyguards, engaging in his favorite pastime.
Finally he flew to Paris, sick from his indulging, died in the hospital from blood disease: AIDS. People are not told, since homosexuality is not tolerated by Arabs/Muslims.

This narrative is more entertaining that Ali Baba and the Forty Robbers mixed with One and a Thousand Nights. Ahead with watering the donkeys
and camels, and smoking the nargila.
The Palestinians are involved in a holly war and a holly mess

#30

Boris: no you did not, because the Negev is still a desert. By the way Saudi Arabia has been exporting wheat for the last 25 years. So wake up from your Zionist dreams and fictions.

#29

Just Got Educated: This is the truth about Israel. Hate and Hate and more hate Jews and Israeli-Arabs should not live next to one another, Construction and Housing Minister Ariel Attias said on Thursday.

He warned of the “expansion of a population that doesn’t love the State of Israel, to say the least.”

Speaking at the Israel Bar Association headquarters in Tel Aviv, the Shas legislator said Israel was in danger of “losing the Galilee” if the Israeli-Arab population continued to “spread” in the North, and mentioned in particular the Wadi Ara area, where he asserted that Harish, a haredi community planned to be built there, was a “mission of national importance” that could help “stop the expansion.”

“Arabs don’t have where to live, so they buy apartments in places with a Jewish nature, which causes unwanted friction,” Attias said.

“We can all be bleeding-hearts,” said the minister, “but I think it is unsuitable [for Jews and Arabs] to live together.”

Attias used the Jewish-Arab clashes last year in Acre to explain his argument. “The mayor of Acre [Shimon Lankry] met with me yesterday for three hours, and asked how to save the city. He told me to bring a whole lot of haredim to save it,” Attias said.

The minister quoted Lankry as saying, “I will even lose my political power.”

“He told me that Arabs living in Jews’ buildings chase them away,” Attias added.

Mayors in the North “are asking me to salvage the Galilee, because this mixture is not feasible for coexistence over time,” Attias said.

He said that he would push forward the long-planned Harish project in order to “save” the Wadi Ara area – which has seen “illegal Arab expansion” – by populating the region with haredim, “who are the only ones willing to live there.”

MK Ahmed Tibi (United Arab List-Ta’al) lashed out at Attias, saying that “relating to Israel’s Arab citizens as something threatening and foreign, coming from a minister in a government that should be distributing resources [equally], borders on violating the law against incitement to racism.”

#28

Just Got Educated: This is the true Israel, that you wish to hide and that is why you keep talking about others
Arabs shouldn’t live with Jews, Shas minister says

Jul. 3, 2009
Jerusalem Post staff , THE JERUSALEM POST
Jews and Israeli-Arabs should not live next to one another, Construction and Housing Minister Ariel Attias said on Thursday.

He warned of the “expansion of a population that doesn’t love the State of Israel, to say the least.”

Speaking at the Israel Bar Association headquarters in Tel Aviv, the Shas legislator said Israel was in danger of “losing the Galilee” if the Israeli-Arab population continued to “spread” in the North, and mentioned in particular the Wadi Ara area, where he asserted that Harish, a haredi community planned to be built there, was a “mission of national importance” that could help “stop the expansion.”

“Arabs don’t have where to live, so they buy apartments in places with a Jewish nature, which causes unwanted friction,” Attias said.

“We can all be bleeding-hearts,” said the minister, “but I think it is unsuitable [for Jews and Arabs] to live together.”

Attias used the Jewish-Arab clashes last year in Acre to explain his argument. “The mayor of Acre [Shimon Lankry] met with me yesterday for three hours, and asked how to save the city. He told me to bring a whole lot of haredim to save it,” Attias said.

The minister quoted Lankry as saying, “I will even lose my political power.”

“He told me that Arabs living in Jews’ buildings chase them away,” Attias added.

Mayors in the North “are asking me to salvage the Galilee, because this mixture is not feasible for coexistence over time,” Attias said.

He said that he would push forward the long-planned Harish project in order to “save” the Wadi Ara area – which has seen “illegal Arab expansion” – by populating the region with haredim, “who are the only ones willing to live there.”

MK Ahmed Tibi (United Arab List-Ta’al) lashed out at Attias, saying that “relating to Israel’s Arab citizens as something threatening and foreign, coming from a minister in a government that should be distributing resources [equally], borders on violating the law against incitement to racism.”

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#27

Just Got Educated: JGE; this is the truth about the only democracy in the Middle East
Arabs shouldn’t live with Jews, Shas minister says

Jul. 3, 2009
Jerusalem Post staff , THE JERUSALEM POST
Jews and Israeli-Arabs should not live next to one another, Construction and Housing Minister Ariel Attias said on Thursday.

He warned of the “expansion of a population that doesn’t love the State of Israel, to say the least.”

Speaking at the Israel Bar Association headquarters in Tel Aviv, the Shas legislator said Israel was in danger of “losing the Galilee” if the Israeli-Arab population continued to “spread” in the North, and mentioned in particular the Wadi Ara area, where he asserted that Harish, a haredi community planned to be built there, was a “mission of national importance” that could help “stop the expansion.”

“Arabs don’t have where to live, so they buy apartments in places with a Jewish nature, which causes unwanted friction,” Attias said.

“We can all be bleeding-hearts,” said the minister, “but I think it is unsuitable [for Jews and Arabs] to live together.”

Attias used the Jewish-Arab clashes last year in Acre to explain his argument. “The mayor of Acre [Shimon Lankry] met with me yesterday for three hours, and asked how to save the city. He told me to bring a whole lot of haredim to save it,” Attias said.

The minister quoted Lankry as saying, “I will even lose my political power.”

“He told me that Arabs living in Jews’ buildings chase them away,” Attias added.

Mayors in the North “are asking me to salvage the Galilee, because this mixture is not feasible for coexistence over time,” Attias said.

He said that he would push forward the long-planned Harish project in order to “save” the Wadi Ara area – which has seen “illegal Arab expansion” – by populating the region with haredim, “who are the only ones willing to live there.”

MK Ahmed Tibi (United Arab List-Ta’al) lashed out at Attias, saying that “relating to Israel’s Arab citizens as something threatening and foreign, coming from a minister in a government that should be distributing resources [equally], borders on violating the law against incitement to racism.”

This article can also be read at http://www.jpost.com /servlet/Satellite?cid=1246443708151&pagename=JPArticle%2FShowFull
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Copyright 1995- 2009 The Jerusalem Post – http://www.jpost.com/

#26

Just Got Educated: JGE, Now you proved beyond reasonable doubt that you are delusional and no worthy of any response.

#25

More wise words :

“Q: So what’s the solution?
A: “No solution but force… strong military rule. Any outbreak will bring upon the Arabs enormous suffering. We shouldn’t wait for a big mutiny to start, but rather act immediately with great force to prevent them from going on…
If it’s possible, we should conquer any disputed territory in the land of Israel. Conquer and hold it, even if it brings us years of war. We should conquer Gaza, and parts of the Galil, and the Golan. This will bring upon us a bloody war, since war is difficult for us – we don’t have a lot of territory, while the Arabs have lots of space to retreat to. But that’s the only way to survive here.””

#24

And even more wise words:

“Regarding the Arab citizens of Israel:
“We don’t have a real partnership with them. The Arab citizens’ goal is to destroy
us. They don’t deny that they want to destroy us. Except for a small minority
who is willing to live with us under certain agreements because of the economical
benefits they receive, the vast majority of the Israeli Arabs would chose to
exterminate us if they had the option to do so. Because of our power they can’t
say this, so they keep quiet and concentrate in their daily life.
I think we should speak to the Israeli Arabs in the language they understand and
admire – the language of force. If we act with strength on any crime they act,
they will understand we show no forgiveness. Had we used this language from
the start, they would have been more careful.
I am talking about strength that is based on justice. They should know that we
will keep a just attitude towards them, but a tough one. You don’t kill or hurt
people or deny their right to make a living just like that. In the villages that we
rule, we need to grant them all the rights – infrastructure, and transportation and
education… but they have to give things in return. If the teachers are inciting the
students, we should close the schools and expel the teachers… we should keep
their rights, but also ours.” “

#23

More wise words:

” “The Jews and the Arabs are like two goats facing each other on a narrow bridge. One must jump to the river – but that involves a danger of death. The strong goat will make the weaker one jump… and I believe the Jewish power will prevail.”
Q: What does the Arab’s jump mean?
A: “That they won’t be able to face [anymore] the war with us, which will include withholding food from Arab cities, preventing education, terminating electrical power and more. They won’t be able to exist, and they will run away from here. But it all depends on the war, and whether we will win the battles with them.”
Q: I suppose you don’t believe in the peace process.
A: “I don’t see any signs that the Arabs want peace… we will face fierce attacks from the Arabs, and we must react firmly. … we just handed them a strong blow in Gaza, and they still bargain with us over one hostage… if we gave them a blow that would really hurt them, they would have given us Gilad Shalit back.”
Q: Operation “cast Lead” was one of the worst blows we handed on a civilian population.
A: “That’s not enough. It’s possible that we should have hit harder.””

#22

More wise words:

“Q: Is there any hope of peace?
A: “Out of agreement? No. the other side might stay in peace if it understands that doing anything [else] will cause it enormous pain.
The two states solution doesn’t exist. There are no two people here. There is a Jewish people and an Arab population… there is no Palestinian people, so you don’t create a state for an imaginary nation… they only call themselves a people in order to fight the Jews.”

#21

To “Son” of Jerusalem:Yes, we did turn the desert into productive Land with high tech Economy in spite 5 of wars, that why you want to move 5 mil. from desert to Israel.
Arab Kings spending Oil billions on golden toilets but not on people.Egypt and Pakistan also getting US money ?? You are like N.Korea and will be.

#20

Just Got Educated: JGE; Why did you steal from Tony Judt’s article from the NYtimes. Had you have any decency and integrity, you would have referred to the author of the lines you have used. But for you stealing from an article is nothing compared to sealing a whole land and a whole culture and denying the existence of a people.

#19

Just Got Educated: JGE; I did not hear Shabaneh ready to destroy as much as he is ready to give equal citizenship to those who would like to live as normal, and peaceful humans. But, I am sure Settlers and you do not want that offer, you want to carry guns, kill innocents and cry wolf. All your so called scientific achievements are minimal compared to those of the West and to the amount of help you get from the outside world.

#18

Just Got Educated: JGE; Hamas and Fatah are at conflict right now, so was the Hagana, the Stern Gangs, and the Argun terrorist groups before the creation of Israel. Remember the sinking of the SHIP ALTALENA by Rabin and the killing of more than 400 Jews. Recall from your history that Ben-Gurion ordered the killing and the imprisonment of Begin. Just Got Educated, you need to educate yourself more to appear intelligent so far, I am not impressed

#17

Boris: Give a nation on earth that received more than $200 Billion from the US and Europe in the last 60 years and did not do 500% more than Israel. So stop playing those games that you turned the desert green. The west gave you money to furnish that desert with $100 green bills and that fact is that Southern Israel is still a desert. Most of the Negev is still empty after all those years. Stop portraying yourselves a hard working society whereas all what you do is take others money and land

#16

Boris: you are absolutely right the Palestinians sold some land to new Jewish immigrants, as a sign of tolerance and respect. But Jewish hidden intentions were not tolerance and respect, it was to drive the natives out and push them away from their country. That is why you began to see some legitimate resistance to the larger Jewish project in 1936. As for the Jews build farms and so on, this is a Zionist Myth and fiction. In 1905 before most Jews arrived to Palestine, most of Europe’s citruses were exported from Jaffa and the larger coastal areas of Palestine. Zionism brain washed you, and made you a slave to hate and racism

#15

Hamas and Fatah are killing each other in Gaza and Ramalah. Hezbollah and Lebanese kill the Palestinian refugees in Lebanon. Are the Son of …… , Shabaneh, and Ahmad Mullah goling to deny these facts also?. Talking about delusional liars.

#14

Palestinians are not living comfortably where ever they go. No one likes to live away of his homeland, nobody is happy to live outside his country. All of us will to return to Palestine.
We do believe that Palestine will be back to it’s native people sooner or later

Son of Jerusalem: I do agree with you, go ahead.
Dr. Shabaneh you are great and intelligent

#13

And has Shabaneh, who lives comfortably in New york, read this opinion?:

“Despite all the diplomatic talk of disbanding the settlements as a condition for peace, no one seriously believes that these communities — with their half a million residents, their urban installations, their privileged access to fertile land and water — will ever be removed. The Israeli authorities, whether left, right or center, have no intention of removing them, and neither Palestinians nor informed Americans harbor illusions on this score.

To be sure, it suits almost everyone to pretend otherwise — to point to the 2003 “road map” and speak of a final accord based on the 1967 frontiers. But such feigned obliviousness is the small change of political hypocrisy, the lubricant of diplomatic exchange that facilitates communication and compromise.”

#12

So Shabaneh is ready to destroy.

Israel:a struggling little country securing its rightful place in a hostile environment by the hard moral work of land clearance, irrigation, agrarian self-sufficiency, industrious productivity, legitimate self-defense and the building of Jewish communities.
The largest of these controversial communities in geographic terms is Maale Adumim. It has a population in excess of 35,000, demographically comparable to Montclair, N.J., or Winchester, England. What is most striking, however, about Maale Adumim is its territorial extent. This “settlement” comprises more than 30 square miles — making it one and a half times the size of Manhattan and nearly half as big as the borough and city of Manchester, England. Some “settlement.”

And Fatah and its branch AL Aqsa Murderers now kill Hamas fanatics and
vice-versa. Can you trust Palestinians to govern?

#11

To “Son” Of Jerusalem: In more than century of violence I am blaming Arab sheikh and dictators. When Jews start coming in 1900 to Eretz Yisrael it was not army with canons and machine guns, they have no power take the Land, they were buying the Land on Zionist money. On that time Eretz Yisrael was abandon, neglected very, very poor province of Ottoman Turks. Jerusalem was dirty and trash. Jews started building farms, small factories and more. That attracted local Arab population which was despaired looking for job. Jews brought live to The Holy Land not oppression. Only one time you sad the truth: “Jews can live together with others”. That what Arab “leaders” could not accept, they don’t need Western society here; they want to keep Arab people in 15 century. The same situation happens now in Iraq and Iran. The best example is South Korea and North Korea.
Do I need to describe you the difference of life in this two countries?? For horrible situation in Gaza, You should blame your “leaders”!!

#10

Boris. Again and again you proof delusional and brain washed. You say that Israel left Gaza and terror continued, not true. Israel never left Gaza, Israel redeployed of Gaza and kept Gaza’s air space, water and crossing under it control per Erez, Nhal OZ, Kirm Shalom, and more. Nothing can go in or outside of Gaza without the Occupation approval. Many projects are awaiting implementation, but Israel refuses to let raw material in. So this big Zionist lie of after we leave more attacks ensue must stop, you never left southern Lebanon and you never left Gaza and that is why the conflict is still going on. As for the Hamas election, what is the difference between Hamas, the Likud, Israel Bitanuo, and Shas. Be honest for once in your life. Have some integrity to admit that Hamas and most Israeli parties have the same agenda. Hamas does not recognize the Quarters demands and most Israeli parties do not, but because America is you ally none is talking about that!!!!!! Just be honest and think about. The terror that you mentioned in the 1920-1939 is fiction and not worth answering. How many people would welcome Russians and Polish Jews coming and occupying their lands. When the Russians and the Germans began taking your property you did the same as the natives, but you call that liberation and the you call the Palestinian self-defense terror

#9

To “Son” of Jerusalem: Various theories have been advanced about Palestinian terror. The most popular and false one is popular among those grew up after 1967, and who insist that Palestinian terror, and indeed the entire Arab-Israeli conflict, is due only to the “Israeli occupation” of the West Bank, and will vanish following Israeli withdrawal. Of course, Israel withdrew from Gaza, but the rain of Qassam rockets that followed, and the election of the extremist Hamas movement, have not deterred the supporters of this theory.
The fact is that Palestinian Arab terror against Jews began in the 1920s, and expressed itself in riots in 1921, in the Riots and Massacres of 1929 including the Hebron Massacre, and the the Arab Revolt of 1936-9 as well as numerous minor incidents that turned terror into a way of life beginning in 1929 and continuing until present time.

#8

Boris,. In 1956 in the village of Kufer Qasim, Israel thugs stopped Palestinians works and killed them in cold blood. More than 60 civilians were killed for no reason other than their religion and their ethnicity. Think what Germans and Russian did to Jews and why. The only reasons that you have been killing Palestinians since 1907, is to scare them and force them out. This will never happen. Settlers like you and the racist Lieberman continue to live on Palestinian land (settlement of Nikodium) and argue that God gave that land to you. People like you in Russia were atheists and most converted to immigrate outside and now you carry a gun and do to the Palestinians what the Germans did to you. You have no right to live on Palestinian occupied land, it is time for you to go

#7

To “Son” of Jarusalem: In June 4, 2001 twenty Israelis were killed and over 90 wounded when a suicide bomber blew himself up in a crowd of mostly teenagers waiting in line outside a disco near Tel Aviv’s Dolphinarium. All were youngsters from the former Soviet Union who had planned to attend a dance party at the Dolphin disco. Same responsible “innocent Palestinians” from Islam Jihad still hiding, but we’ll find them sooner or later. Palestinian terrorists are the real Killers??

#6

Boris, your problem is you think you know, and you do not. What kind of an analogy is this? Israel killed 13 Palestinians who carry Israeli citizenships in 2000. None is out of reality except you and Lieberman. You Russians have destroyed Israel because of your hatred and racism.

#5

Again worldfocus you have got it well by having Dr. Shabaneh.
His views are Sober.

#4

Mr. G. Shabaneh is out of reality: Israeli settlers should be living under control Palestinian Administration, it’s the same if Texas became part of Mexico.

#3

Step #1 is to label the land non-holy. Dirt is dirt. God does not discriminate when it comes to dirt or people. It is all his childern. Get over the scriptural dogmas and start acting like Godly people and not the ‘Devil’.

#2

Great comments. The guest is very well-versed in the issue of settlements. He offered new ideas with his suggestions that settlers should be living under Palestinian Jurisdiction. No one can argue otherwise since they are living on Palestinian lands.

#1

Very nice commentary, thank you worldfocus. This expert is very nutral and knows the subject. I am gald you have invited him

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