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June 19, 2009
Israel eyes response of Iran’s supreme leader

In a speech on Friday, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei warned that Iranian opposition leaders — including candidate Mir-Hossein Mousavi — will be held accountable for “violence, bloodshed and rioting” if the rallies don’t stop.

Iran’s supreme leader also blamed Americans, the British and Zionists for the turmoil in his country, and once again criticized the United States for its support of Israel. Israel considers Iran its greatest existential threat.

Ronen Bergman, one of Israel’s leading investigative journalists and author of “The Secret War With Iran,” joins Martin Savidge to discuss the Israeli government’s take on the current showdown in Iran and how it may come to an end.

For more, view our Voices of Iran extended coverage page and listen to our online radio show on Baha’i faith and modern Iran.

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38 comments

#38

Reza Hakeemi: You speak of evidence, well where is your evidence?

#37

Boris, Boris, where are you? No more lies. Have you been cornered? I am still waiting your answers. Poor Boris, the Zionists got you confused.

#36

Boris, Nothing from what you wrote is correct. It does not have any evidence to support it. If the Jews were attacked in the Arab world, how come they still live with respect and integrity in their native countries. How come the Bahraini ambassador to the USA is A Jew. Why according to Roger Cohen of the NYtimes the Iranian Jews are very well to do and have no problems where as Palestinians are being massacred by you. Boris, did you see the Border Police You-Tube on Harretz, which abuse the Palestinians very much. Do you why little is heard about Jewish refugees? Because they do not exist!!!! The State of Israel was secretly negotiating with Arab corrupt regimes the immigration of Jews from their countries and that is exactly what happened. By the way you still encourage people to come (immigrate) Why? How come those who come from the UAS and Russia and France are not called refugees? Great games you playing. Are you an immigrant or a refugee. Is Shimon Peres an immigrant, a refugee, or a pioneer Zionist who came from Poland. Why the Jews who left Arab countries as part of a vast conspiracy between Israel and corrupt Arab leaders are refugees, but those who came from Europe are good Jews and pioneer Zionist. I would love to hear your answers to that

As for Iran the government publicly allowed the Jews to immigrate with all their belongings. Look at Moroccan Jews, they do not want to leave, they can, but they do not want. Why? Because they know that Zionism is a huge lie and they have more respect in the Arab world. How Many Russians have been begging on the streets for money? Most of them are Engineers, lawyers, and Doctors. Some of my friends were Christians and immigrated too for a better living, but they returned back after they discovered the Zionist lie. I want to speak in English only, so we remain fair to those who read.

Vratit Ti-se

#35

To Reaza Hakeemi:”Jewish refugee from Arab Countries” By J. Shields.”Although much is heard about the plight of the Palestinian refugees, little is said about the Jews who fled from Arab states. In 1945, there were more than 870,000 Jews living in the various Arab states. Many of their communities dated back 2,500 years. Throughout 1947 and 1948 these Jews were persecuted. Their property and belongings were confiscated. There were anti-Jewish riots in Egypt, Lybia, Syria, and Iraq. In Iraq, Zionism was made a capital crime. Aproximately 600,000 Jews sought refuge in the State of Israel. They arrived destitute, but they were absorbed into the society and became an integral part of the state. In effect, then, a vertible exchange of populations took place between Arab and Jewish refugees. Thus, the Jewish refugees from Arab countries became full Israeli citizens whereas the Arab refugees who fled their homes in Palestine, remained “refugees“ unaided by the neighboring Arab countries.

Little is heard about the Jewish refugees because they did not remain refugees for long. Of the 820,000 Jewish refugees, 586,000 were resettled in Israel at great expense, and without any offer of compensation from the Arab governments who confiscated their possessions. During the 1947 UN debates, Arab leaders threatened the Jews living in their countries with expulsion and violence if partition were to occur. Egypt’s delegate told the General Assembly: “The lives of one million Jews in Muslim countries would be jeopardized by partition.“ Following the 1947 United Nations vote to partition Palestine, Arab violence against Jews erupted throughout the Middle East and North Africa”.
Where did you study in Russia?? We can talk in Russian? Xvatit vrat’!!

#34

Boris, I looked into Eng. Britannica and I did not find any information about what you wrote. This tells me that you have misled me and many on this website. The story sounds like the larger Zionist narrative which has more fictions than facts. Boris, you are living a bog lie and its time to begin reconstructing yourself to become a good human being

#33

Boris, in your previous email you said that 800,000 to 1000,000 Jews were forced out. According to you numbers, which I am sure that they are wrong, your division of your new information is, 770,000, if anyone is to accept that the number is true. So you just mislead people by either 30, 000 to 280,000 so called refugees. Accordingly, your sources and your knowledge do contradict one another. As for the Jews from Egypt, I think the story was much bigger than what you said. According to Shimon Peres books, some Egyptian Jews began planting bombs at the American and the British embassies in Cairo, so the Americans and the British come and attack Egypt. This is in Israel history is known as the (Lavon Affairs) named after the defense minister Benkhas Lavon who ordered the operation. So get your facts before you claim anything. I studied in Russia and I know how many Russian think!!!!!!!!

#32

To Reza Hakeemi:You statement that nobody claimed that land was Lie. Here is population of Jews expelled from Arab countries: Algeria-140000, Egypt- 75000, Iraq-135000, Morocco-250000, Syria-20000, Libia-35000, Tunisia-70000, Yemen-45000 and more(Source En. Britannica).Reach or poor they were force to run. How much this people were suffering? Palestinians are living much better than many Israelis, Europeans, and Americans. Did you see report April 22, 2009 in W/Focus about life of regular Palestinian family: nice house, expansive furniture, eating good food and watching color TV? It doesn’t look that they are “suffering”.

#31

Boris, I need real sources of your cliams. It is very easy to post numbers on the website. Give a book or an article writen by a nutral party to support your cliams. If you talking about Jewish propoganda, then I understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if all the numbers you say are correct, then Jews in tghe Arab world were richer than the natives, which means that the so called bad treatment of the jews is propoganda. I know in may native Iran, that the Jews are very rich and when they let the Shah allowed them to take all their belonging. Iranina Jews in Israel are the richest because they took their belonging and many sold their land freely!!!!!! but compare that to what you doing to the natives in Palestine. Your country is forcing people out from their homes

#30

To Reza Hakeemi:To Not Truth.
800,000 to 1,000,000 Jews were either forced out or fled their homes in Arab countries from 1948 until the early 1970s; 260,000 reached Israel in 1948-1951, 600,000 by 1972.The Jews of Egypt and Libya were expelled while those of Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon and North Africa left as a result of a coordinated effort among Arab governments to create physical and political insecurity.Most were forced to abandon their property. By 2002 these Jews and their descendants constituted about 40% of Israel’s population.One of the main representative bodies of this group, the World Organization of Jews from Arab Countries, (WOJAC) estimates that Jewish property abandoned in Arab countries would be valued today at more than $300 billionand Jewish-owned real-estate left behind in Arab lands at 100,000 square kilometers (four times the size of the State of Israel).The organization asserts that the Jewish exodus was the result of a deliberate policy decision taken by the Arab league.
How many Jews were killed by Arab since 1907??!!!

#29

Boris: I never admitted that or anything to you. You have to stop your Mosad methods of getting people to say what they do not say. Since I began debating you, you have lied so many times. As for the Jordanian army, this is the biggest joke on earth. Jordan’s army was under British control and it was Great Britain that established Israel. So, why would Great Britain allow the Jordanian so called army attack Israel. And it was very clear that the Jordanians never wanted to see a Palestinian state. So, why would they attack Israel? I told you before that you are BRAIN WASHED AND YOU KNOW VERY LITTLE. You did not believe me. Whoever asked you to emigrate to Palestine mislead you and taught you bad history. Russia is much better for you, I think you belong there. You should go there soon

#28

Boris, the problem is that none is asking for Arab land and North Africa. If your claim is correct, it is not, why are not people asking to liberate any Arab country from its owners!!!!! on the other hand, Palestine and Lebanon have owners and that is why you have been killing people there since 1907

#27

To Reza Hakeemy:“Son” of Jerusalem told me exactly the same. My answer to both: Arab occupied N. Africa, Egypt and Middle East. Arab is real colonial power.

#26

To “Son” Of Jerusalem: You’ve admitted that Arab attack Israel first.
Both sides get support; I am sure that Arab gets more. In 1948 Jordan’s Arab Legion was considered the most effective Arab force. Armed, trained and commanded by British officers.
In 1967, 1972 and 1982 wars Arab countries received huge supply of newest Soviet arms. Soviets provided not only military instructors; they send pilots, army engineers, radar operators and more. All of them fought secretly on Arab side. Believe me or not, but its truth.
About investment, I can say that during the Cold war the West needed Israel, but now we are much more independed. For me it’s better for Israel, than follow big brother command. History is so unpredictable, in last report from Afghanistan, man sad:”Russians did not do that to us”.

#25

Boris, The Holly land never belonged to you. You are living on a myth and fiction not reality. The former USSR was one six of the world. The size of the land has nothing to do with ownership. You are a member of a colonial power thant has nothing to do with that land

#24

Boris: Israel has never been able to defend itself without western help. You always crie to America to help you out. After 61 years you are inneed for more outside help than ever. Israel is avery bad western investemnt. Go Figure

#23

Barabra: It takes more courage to stand to ignorance. I think you are a very ignornat human.

#22

To Reza Hakeem: You are wrong, the Holy Lang belong to Jews now. It’s only 20 thd.sq.km. or 0.14% of Arab own territory 14.7 mil.sq.km, if it’s not enough for you, the Saudi Royal family easy can buy Hollywood.

#21

To “Son” of Jerusalem: Because, we were able to defend our self’s every time when Arab attack us by armies, terrorism and thousand rockets,- you are calling us “arrogant” and “criminal”.I think you are Arrogant and Criminals. Gaza, 2008 is very good example: Iranian control Hamas was firing rockets every day into Israel territory for 3 years. That criminal act was repeated thousand times and deserves Punishment. For 61 years Arab are using the same tactics: attack first, after get Punishment, they cry in Arab control UN. Do not try to scare us, we are paying heavily for 61 years of Arab aggressions and terrorism. You are talking about “transfer of power “, as I can see China is getting more power but not Arab countries.

#20

It takes some courage to stand up to blatant anti-Semitism. I stand with Steve Burns’ post.

#19

Boris, Arbs own oil and sel it in the market to the highst biders. What dies Israel own? Nothing!!! EVEN THE LAND IS NOT YOURS. Israel is taking money from people and killing with it; big difference. Arabs own oil. Jews own The media in the West especially in America, Hollywood, Most Banks around the world, and Casions. Boris, Education, health care, and farming land is free in most of the Arab world and Iran. So stop your lies about Palcaes and cars

#18

Boris: The only criminal in the Middle East is Israel. One day you will be punished to the full exten of the law. Now it is your time, you are very strong and arrogant. Soon you will pay heavily for all your arrogance and hate. The 300 million Arbs that you count are all working for Israel’s fafty through their coward leadership. You think Mubark or King Abdullah care about the Palestinians? Soon a a balance of power change will take place and you will be the biggest lossers of all

#17

To Reza Hakeemi: Arab control 60% of world Oil supply. They are receiving every year only from US about 700 Billion dollars. Arab dictators with the all money they get instead of buying palaces, Rolls-Royces and diamonds, should create jobs to Palestinians and Lebanese. Arab dictators should stop giving orders to Palestinians and Lebanese to fire rockets on Israel, because we will fire back hard. I agree that we would be the richest country in the world if Arab newer attack Israel. If we did not spend money on defense we would never survive. That what Arabs and most Europeans are dreaming about.

#16

To “Son” of Jerusalem: I am not the only one who is trying to stop all the Lies you are spreading. Of course your numbers 300millions of Arabs and 800millions of Muslims much bigger than 15 million of Jews. Your powerless makes you to spread more and more False and Lies. The crime in Gaza was committed by Iranian control terrorist organization Hamas, only so call “Arab street” and people like J. Carter believe in Arab propaganda lies.

#15

Boris; the same is true for Israel. America, Europe, and many Jews around the world give you money and instead of creating jobs you kill Palestinians and Lebanese. Your economy is so bad regardless of all the money you get from outside. With all the money you get and the little population you have, Israel should be the richest country on earth. But instead, it is the most dangerous country on earth. Most Europeans believe that Israel is more dangerous to world peace than my country Iran or even N. Korea

#14

Boris: So Iam son of Jerusalem, Reza Hakeemi, Susan walsh and who else? I am sure that you are delusional. People are wrting and you think that none knows the truth about the occupation. All people red about and saw your crimes in Gaza, and know about you and your false accusations of many people. I am so happy that you think I am all three people. Who knows you may have another name for me soon. At least you are practcing your English. So American money is going to killing Palestinians only, but some of it is being used to educate Russians like you that there are good values and good people. I think Mr. Hakeemi is better informed than you are

#13

To “Son” of Jerusalem: I thought that Reza Hakeemi has imagination but it’s you “Son”: Yes, we attack Gaza from 3 sides, but you won and made 4.5 Billion. Hamas has very good “imagination” how to make money, instead of building water supply for Palestinians they are using pipes for making rockets. They were preparing booby traps in streets and houses (instead of street lights for Palestinians). After 3 years of daily rockets attack Israeli patient run out. Hamas leaders disappear in bonkers and regular fighters were hiding behind woman and children. Al Gezira, BBC, CNN reporters were ready.
Most of the killed were Hamas fighters about 700. We will respond every time, because Palestinian terrorists killed thousand Israeli civilians for the last 62 years.

#12

Boris: Why should I imagine anything. You attacked Gaza from three sides: Air, Sea, and Land . The Palestinians in Gaza have no military no air force, and no navel force. All the Palestinians are civilians under occupation. Your coward army have been killing civilians for the last 62 years. By the way Boris, you need more history and geography lessons to be able to make analogies

#11

Exact Definition of ‘Archetype’ (as the word is used and meant in the previous text:

“(in Jungian psychology) A collectively inherited unconscious idea, pattern of thought, image, etc., universally present in individual psyches.”

#10

Set each Word (particle of Logos), spoken here, on Fire and observe the resulting Flames and Smoke rising into Atmospheres of Endlessly Evolving Conceptions of Historically and Philosophically Perceived Theological-Political Nuances often hidden in the various inflections used in the same or different grammatical aspects of Languages which themselves change over time as do the very meanings of words when they are adjusted into other functions across Centuries…then ask why Emotions (of Anger, etc.) must, continually, be attempting to act (armed with only those limited aspects of the Knowledge we obtain as useful to the parts of the Languages which remain adaptable to the Imagery of our Human Understandings as they juxtapose with the Complexities of our Finite World) as a Collective Starter Fuel upon the Substance (Infinite Mind) of what is, already (even as in Aeons long past), the Archetype (as understood in Jungian psychology) of what we see still Today as a useful Natural Element (Fire on Earth) which will burn (when used properly and even when not), easily enough, by virtue of the underlying Reason that Burning is Fire’s own function and quality, by nature, regardless of what Flames of Human Opinion may be summated or what Human Conduct there may come to be processed or, eventually (with due consummation of Time) be added…

#9

To Reza Hakeemi: Let me remind you facts which Arab propaganda always avoiding: population of 3 Arabs countries attacked Israel in 1972 about 100 million, population of Israel 5million or 20:1, Arab territory 1.5 mil. sq. km., Israel 20 thsd. sq. km. or 75:1. Imagine country like Belgium would be able to defend itself from attack in 3 directions from Germany, France and Nederland, of cause Not! But, Israel defends itself 3 times and won in 1948, 1967 and 1972. That why: Israel is the only country on Earth that has no civilians, we all are Soldiers. After defeat in 1972 Arab afraid to attack Israel by regular army they attack Israel by “civilians” from PLO, Hezbollah, Hamas and many more, but that coward tactics will not help them. Believe me yours dictators afraid to start “big war”.

#8

to the pinhead REZA HAKEEKI. YOU ARE CORRECT;THE WAR IS COMING SO MAKE SURE YOUR BUTT ISN’T CAUGHT IN A NUCLEAR BREEZE,BY YOUR TRULY,THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ALL OUR ARAB FRIENDS. AND LET ME THROW IN THE LOOP,” ISRAEL.”

#7

URGENT — Every knee shall bow, every tongue confess, that Jesus Christ is LORD. RUReady?

#6

Mericane: So Egypt occupied Gaza, Sinai, and some parts of the Suez Canal!!!!!! I wonder who studied history and who did not. You said “As far as Israel is concerned it was attacked in 1956” and Israel thinks that Iraq, Egypt, Syria, and Jordan are suppose to be Israeli land too. You think too many things of yourselves. I think that the war is coming soon

#5

Boris: You ask “ where can you find civilians hide in Bunkers with arms”? In Israel. Israel is the only country on earth that has no civilians, all of you are soldiers or potential ones. All accounts of the war show that the majority of those who were killed in Gaza and Lebanon where civilians. All Israelis hide in Bunkers “ but you and your American media friends at CNN, Fox, and ABC call them shelters”. The big war is coming Boris

#4

To Reza Hakeemi: The recent wars in 2006, 2009 were against Hezbollah and Hamas, Iranian control, support, train and supply terrorist organizations. But Arab propaganda calls that “against civilians”. Where in the World you can find “civilians” in bunker with rocket launchers?! It’s clear that Iran attack Israel by using Hezbollah and Hamas in 2006 and 2009.

#3

TO REZA HAKEEMI,WHAT HISTORY BOOKS HAVE YOU BEEN READING ? YOU ARE THE ILLITERATE FOOL.
THE IRANIAN’S REGIME BACK IN 1979 ATTACK THE UNITED STATES BY OVERTAKING THE US EMBASSY.
AS FAR ISRAEL IS CONCERNED,IT WAS ATTACKED IN 1956 AND THE WARS THAT FOLLOWED.
ISRAEL WAS ACTING IN SELF DEFENSE.
IF WHAT YOU SAY IS TRUE,THEN WHY HASN’T ISRAEL ATTACK ITS ENEMIES WITH THEIR NUCLEAR STOCKPILE ?

#2

Steve: Your comments show the shallowness of your knowledge. Iran has no nuclear weapons and because of the American and Israeli media all illiterate people around the world think it does. On the other hand Israel has more than 300 nuclear heads and said many times that it is willing to use them against countries. Iran did not attack anyone in the last 100 years, but has been attacked by many. While Israel has been attacking all it neighbors since 1956. The recent wars of 2006 and 2008/9 against civilians are a clear example of that. Yet illiterate bloggers around the glob are stating the opposite you included.

#1

Mr. Bergman plainly stated the thoughts of the Israeli hierarchy. World opinion does not come to bear in this matter. Israel will not wait for a nuclear attack to strike within it’s borders. I stand with them.

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